September 19 2023 CRC Minutes

CRC #1

3:00 – 4:30

9/19/23

Meeting Minutes

Attendance:

Tony Iantosca, Emily Schnee, Rob Cowan, Daniel Perrone, Joshua Wright, MaryLynn Navarro, Sara Rutkowski, Steve Amarnick, Maxine Krenzel, DonnaLynn Washington, Tisha Ulmer, Laura Nadel, Carl Schlachte, Hope Parisi, Patty George, Megan O’Neill

  • Discussion of Composition Across CUNY:
  • Writing “through” or “about” literature, as opposed to Intro to Literature. Question: Is a Comp II Class in which we read literature a “literature” course, or a “writing” about literature course? Why not center the writing course on readings about writing: Ie: Writing about writing?
  • Other approaches across CUNY: WID/WAC; rhetorical
  • More 4-year schools have Comp Specialization in the 2nd semester course. Potential reason may be that 4-yr schools within CUNY house Intro to Lit in a standard core required “Great Works” course (ex: Baruch).
  • Reviewing Course Description:
  • Does the primary/secondary evidence/research distinction hold for all faculty as a distinguishing characteristic between 1200 and 2400? Adding primary research allows students to become agentive in the research process. This means students are more than “synthesizers” of secondary information. What about research “methodologies”?
  • Contrarian point: The outcomes are fine enough, and we can spend better time on other CRC issues.

  • Timelines
  • We’re aiming to have substantive changes to the 2400 CLOs finished and voted on by the end of the semester or the first week of the Spring.
  • Given that we’re changing less than 20% of the curriculum, these changes don’t need to go up to CUNY, or even the state, but they will need be reviewed by the KBCC curriculum committee, which means our changes need to be presented to, and voted on, by the first week of the Spring at the latest.

Next Steps:

  • Synthesize faculty feedback on the draft documents and bring revised materials back to the CRC, continue to revise or move on to a vote
  • Some kind of analysis/workshopping of particular assignments and class plans. May involve workshopping assignments handouts, faculty trying out the assignments as a way to weigh in. CRC members invited to workshop materials to be used as resources on the comp website when we revise the Comp II sections.
  • Continue to discuss ENG 2400 and Civic Engagement: how does CE fit into this new curriculum?